Shanghai Open Infrastructure Forum and PTG

The Open Infrastructure Summit, Forum, and Project Teams Gathering was held last week in the beautiful city of Shanghai. The event was held in the spirit of cross-cultural collaboration and attendees arrived with the intention of bridging the gap with a usually faraway but significant part of the OpenStack community. Yet I left the event feeling somewhat unfulfilled in that regard: very few people attended the "meet the leaders" events apart from the leaders themselves, and, especially disappointingly to me, no new community members attended the keystone onboarding session. The general atmosphere was subdued, with key players missing from the event due to travel constraints and even those in attendance admitting that their focus will soon be shifting away from OpenStack.

Nevertheless, from a keystone perspective the event was productive in spite of the majority of the team not being present. I used the time to spread the gospel of policy and was encouraged that most teams are ready to take the plunge with their policy overhauls.

Next Steps for Policy in OpenStack


Forum Etherpad

Now that the keystone team has laid down a path forward to overcome the longstanding plague of the admin-ness problem as well as the lack of a consistent read-only role and has itself completed the policy migration that can be used as an example, my top priority this week was to evangelize our proposed RBAC overhaul. We started the week with a forum session to ensure we had alignment on the path forward. The outcome was positive: everyone seemed to be familiar with the changes needed and was on board with the proposal, and we even had a large number of people volunteer to take on the work. We agreed to form a pop-up team to coordinate the work initially. The team will produce a document of best practices that will be used as a basis for a community goal in 1-2 cycles. Using the pop-up team structure first rather than jumping straight into a community goal is preferable because the team will be able to uncover, solve and document issues that the keystone team may not have faced itself.

We also discussed the possibility of operator tooling to help operators secure their deployments while projects are in transition, since the migration will be a long-term effort but there will be no net benefit to operators until all projects they have deployed have completed the migration. It would be helpful if tooling existed to somehow automatically block unfinished policies, but writing such an insightful tool would most likely be very difficult. We didn't come to a tangible conclusion on this.


QA PTG Etherpad

I met with the QA team to discuss forming a common testing interface for new policy changes. During keystone's policy migration, we implemented unit tests to perform regression testing for the new default policies. This had the advantage of allowing us to implement tests in the same patch as the policy changes, but a quirk in keystone's implementation caused these tests to be extremely expensive. It's also not suitable as a common framework that other projects could share, as it is based on the Python-Flask TestClient utility and other projects will have their own unique web framework implementations. I proposed adding functionality to tempest to provide new personas that could exercise all available scopes and all default roles for every policy rule. This has the advantage of being common to all service projects, but runs the risk of being too heavyweight for many projects. One possibility to make tests less heavyweight could be to implement a decorator similar to osprofiler to only check policy on API calls and bail out without performing the rest of the logic in the call. This would be useful in many cases but would not help for some tests where the result of the call is significant, such as resource list calls under different token scopes. Patrole is another option for testing policy, but it would need work to become aware of the changes we are making in how policy works. Moreover, its main use case is testing custom policies in active deployments, and it's not currently well-suited for regression testing of the new default policies that services will be implementing. We agreed that making the new personas available in tempest is useful and projects can choose to use them or choose to implement unit tests. If using tempest, projects can implement the new tests in their own tempest plugins and create non-voting CI jobs to validate them. Once the migration work is completed and the jobs are green, they can become voting.

We also needed to address how to handle existing tempest tests once projects become scope-aware, remove deprecated policies and set enforce_scope to true. Since tempest is branchless, the old admin credentials will have to work for both new system-scoped admin calls as well as old project-scoped admin calls that behave as admin-everywhere calls. We agreed to use config flags to enable forwarding of the admin client to either system-scoped or project-scoped admin credentials.


The barbican team already completed Step 1 of the policy migration by evaluating all of their existing API rules for whether they fit under system or project scope or admin, member, or reader roles, and so are already well on their way to completing the migration.


Cinder PTG Etherpad

The cinder team had questions about testing and we recapped our discussions with the QA team. We also discussed how to handle cinder's existing database-level project checks. I clarified that the scope_types option in oslo.policy's rules class is not overridable by operators, so for APIs that can only make sense in the context of a project, it may be okay for in-code project checks to remain. However, for policies that should be system-scope, requiring a project will clearly need to be reworked.


Nova PTG Etherpad

The nova team's main concern was with how a multi-cycle policy migration will affect operators, given that the keystone team took two cycles to complete its migration which resulted in an extra cycle with deprecation warnings in the logs that operators could do nothing about. We discussed various technical means of doing this, mainly by modifying oslo.policy, but landed on simply keeping an unmerged stack of changes under review until the stack was complete and only merging it then. It will be interesting to see how this goes and whether we can recommend it to other projects or if we will need to handle this in oslo.policy. We also agreed that the keystone team will need to help review at least the first few changes to help ensure the migration proceeds in the right direction.


Neutron PTG Etherpad

The discussion with the neutron team was straightforward. They also had questions about testing and I again recapped the discussion from the QA meeting. There was some question about how to handle the stadium projects that I couldn't quite answer.


I did not meet with the glance team but glance was a topic of concern because it has not completed the migration to policy in code which is a prerequisite for being able to deprecate and change default policies. It seems there was a misunderstanding of how big a challenge that would be, and given the lack of people-power in the project it went untackled. It turns out it should not be that much work and is now even in progress.

Keystone-Adjacent Forum Topics

Project Resource Cleanup

Session Etherpad

Deletion of OpenStack resources owned by a keystone project is a regular topic of discussion. Last time it was decided that the implementation should be done in openstacksdk, but no progress was made on that implementation. Recently there was renewed interest in the ospurge tool and there is now a maintainer for it, so it now seems feasible to put backing behind this tool. There is a plan to lift the ospurge logic into openstacksdk. There should be no change needed in keystone, but there was some question about whether the tool should disable or delete the project in keystone, but in the end this seemed like a workflow-specific choice that the tooling shouldn't be opinionated about.

Change of Ownership of Resources

Session Etherpad

This is another recurring topic, but the room expressed that it is not nearly so critical as resource cleanup, and in fact is a cloud anti-pattern that can be somewhat solved by educating customers about cloud patterns. It was agreed that since it was not important enough to anyone to dedicate an engineer to it, it won't be actively pursued this cycle, but the current status still needs to be documented in case someone wants to step up in the future. Changing resource ownership directly is a hard problem to solve, but being able to reparent projects may be an alternative (but perhaps not easier) way of accomplishing a similar result for operators making use of using keystone domains or hierarchical project structures.